Liar is a bit strong however I do believe she was being dishonest and trying to pad her resume as has been mentioned.Bryan
But wasn't it really a blatant lie? Don't get me wrong, at this point, I like Hillary best. I'm just floored by this.
Yeah it was a blatant lie but I just have trouble branding her a liar for it.And I am not only not for her (I'm for Obama) but the last month or two has kind of made me against her. She's just seemed sort of snaky and untrustworthy with her whole kitchen sink approach.
She lied, no bones about it. She's prone to exaggeration and this is a lie. If her mucky defence of her "mistake" is real, she needs a mental health break. I think Obama is the best suited to the job by far. I hope you all vote for him to give the rest of us more peace.
Bryan,I can see where you're coming from. The "branding" point is a good one, perhaps.Steph,I just can't get past Obama's abortion stance, it is totally ridiculous and inhumane. There are some other things I don't like about him (e.g. his confusing stance on the war) but he is surely better than McCain.
Isn't Obama's abortion stance basically the same as Hilary's and every other Democrat?
I find it hard to believe his abortion policy is cruel and inhumane - I don't know. What is it? I don't advocate abortion but I wouldn't dream of condemning it where there is underage rape or health risk. Proper contraceptives should be more available as well as sex education.What's so confusing about Obama's stance on war? I wouldn't trust Clinton as far as I could throw her.McCain ... who? He doesn't exist.
Bryan,There are 2 differences between Clinton and Obama on abortion that I can think of off of my head: 1) The point at which an embryo is a human--Obama way later than Clinton, and 2) The point when an abortion can occur--if my memory serves me correctly, Obama allows later that Clinton, but don't quote me on this as certain. When I was doing a lot of research early on in the campaigns these were 2 things I remember jumping out at me.Steph,As regrads cruel and inhumane, Obama has the most liberal voting record per abortion than any senator in US history. He isn't even willing to say that a 9-month old is a human. I think that's a travesty and shame! The audacity of his inhumanity here is horrendous. As for his policy on war, it is confusing beccause he has said over and over again that he wants the troops out as soon as possible but that if, after they came home, things flared up again, he'd send them back. This just sounds stupid to me. I'm not just making this seem simplistic either, this is the truth of the matter. Hillary's plan is much better here. But then again, Obama isn't an ardent defender of pro-life, so, I can see him, as he has said, going back to fight the war. I realize these are touchy subjects but even the nuances are very important. As for McCain, I hate his stance on war, I think he is a war-monger and it is for that reason, that I cannot see myself voting for him. I hope we get an Independent candidate. Honestly, I don't feel like I can trust a single one of the candidates; I feel like we're stuck between a rock and a hard place over here.
He isn't even willing to say that a 9-month old is a human? I don't believe Obama said that and I've never heard him say he'd send troops back. McCain loves war and there'd just be disastrous consequences if he were elected. I'd never vote independent this election. I'm terrified of McCain and I'm almost as terrified of Clinton.
Steph,You don't have to believe me but those things are true. As far as 9 months, his voting records proves that. As far as going back to war, there are myriad videos of him saying this during conferences. I don't understand why you're denying it. Both things are absolutely true!!!
He did not say that a nine month old (foetus) is not a human being. His voting record doesn't "prove" that. I've since googled and found he seems to want withdrawal of combat troops with redeployment of remainder - which is confusing. I wasn't "denying" that - I said I hadn't heard anything. I'm not American or in America. Thank goodness. I'd still vote for Obama because its too dangerous to let McCain in. At least he's honest.
Steph,Okay. I don't want to sound mean or harsh or whatever, but you are just wrong about these facts. Check out this video: Barak's Voting On AbortionWhat you say about his redeployment of remainder is correct but that's only part of the story. He wants to bring them home but is ready and willing to send them back. Anyway, there is more than enough proof on these two issues. As for being an American, I'm glad I live here. I found your statement quite rude, honestly. I guess I could just second your motion and say, "I guess I'm glad you're not an American either." However, I'm really not that rude.
I am sorry I was rude. I reacted badly to what I thought was your condecension.and sorry I misread you the first time - I read "he IS even willing to say a nine month old isn't a human being" which I didn't believe. I'm ignorant about computers. I'm basically use it to write my thesis but I don't have broadband or any fancy set-ups which allow videos and music. But still, a policy of "abortion rights" does not imply that a nine month old foetus (generally being born) is not a human being. And while I don't condone abortion, maybe he had in mind when voting, cases where the health of mother and baby were at risk late in preganacy.I'm very nervous about your election. And while my opinion has dipped about Obama, I'm terrified of McCain getting in. It has such huge consequences for all of us.
fwiw, what I meant was, while because I'm not American or in America therefore I don't read or hear as much American political news as you (our news is full of our own politics), the "thank goodness" was in reference to the latter - I'm not in America. It wasn't intended to be thank goodness I'm not American. Thank goodness I'm not in England or Australia or anywhere else either. Because I'm scared - scared or war and things which would prevent me getting home. That's why I returned from England (although I'm going there next week for a conference - and I'm dreading it). It may well be a false sense of security, but I feel safe here. As long as McCain doesn't get in:)
Steph,I see. Thanks for clarifying. Blessings.
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